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Children should take both parents' surnames.

It would be a practiced idea for children to take the surnames of both their parents.

Do you hold?

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That happens in some countries already, like Spain.

I have both my parents' surnames. My first surname is my father's, my second surname'south my female parent's. What I don't agree with is the fact that at first the outset surname e'er had to exist the father'due south. Fortunately, this has changed and now y'all can take your mother's surname as your first.

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I agree, no problem for me, only I notice some difficulties in the time to come. How should nosotros name our grandchilden? :?

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Dixie wrote:That happens in some countries already, like Spain.

I have both my parents' surnames. My first surname is my begetter'due south, my second surname's my female parent'south. What I don't agree with is the fact that at first the first surname ever had to exist the father'due south. Fortunately, this has changed and now you tin can have your mother's surname as your first.

So your mom's is your middle name so? Or are those terminal names joined? :?

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LennyeTran wrote: So your mom'south is your middle name and then? Or are those concluding names joined? :?

In my state, women practise non take their hubby's surname when they get married. That'southward why I chuckled when you chosen my mom "Miss Carceller" :wink: That's my father'due south proper noun. My female parent's last name is Guzman. And so my surnames are Carceller Guzman.

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mamuta wrote:I concord, no problem for me, but I notice some difficulties in the time to come. How should we name our grandchilden? :?

Children take their parents' first surnames. Their children, then, do the same. The 2d surname is going to be lost on the way.

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Dixie wrote:

LennyeTran wrote: So your mom'due south is your middle proper name then? Or are those last names joined? :?

In my country, women do not accept their married man'due south surname when they become married. That'south why I chuckled when you called my mom "Miss Carceller" :wink: That's my father's name. My mother'due south last proper noun is Guzman. So my surnames are Carceller Guzman.

:lol: No wonder. I idea I forgot to call her Mrs. instead. And so, you lot take a center name also correct? And yous use the last-eye-beginning name pattern?

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LennyeTran wrote: :lol: No wonder. I thought I forgot to call her Mrs. instead. So, y'all have a center name also correct? And y'all utilise the last-middle-commencement name design?

I don't take a middle proper noun. Well, there was a time when it was a tradition to proper name girls Maria plus the name chosen. I was i of those unfortunate kind. And then I accept ii names (Maria Mercè) just I just utilize that in bureaucratic situations.

What do you mean past "the last-centre-first name blueprint"?

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Dixie wrote:...My first surname is my father'southward, my second surname'southward my mother's...this has changed and at present you tin can have your mother's surname equally your first...Children have their parents' beginning surnames...

Hm, interesting. Now I come across some problems. For example: you and your blood brother - is it possible you have unlike first surname if your parents wanted to? And imagine parents with two sons: they could have unlike get-go surnames so their children would take totally various surnames :? A bit complicated, isn't it? And what near family tradition?

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mamuta wrote: Hm, interesting. Now I encounter some issues. For instance: you and your brother - is it possible you have different first surname if your parents wanted to? And imagine parents with two sons: they could take dissimilar first surnames so their children would take totally various surnames :? A bit complicated, isn't it? And what about family tradition?

No, that's non possible. Parents can decide the order of the surnames, merely I don't retrieve it'due south allowed for the children to have the surnames in different order. That would be a mess!

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Dixie wrote:

LennyeTran wrote: :lol: No wonder. I thought I forgot to telephone call her Mrs. instead. So, you accept a middle name too right? And yous utilise the final-centre-first name pattern?

I don't have a middle name. Well, there was a time when it was a tradition to name girls Maria plus the name called. I was 1 of those unfortunate kind. So I have two names (Maria Mercè) but I only use that in bureaucratic situations.

What do you mean by "the last-middle-first name pattern"?

Ha, aforementioned similar Vietnam. Once upon a time girls in Saigon got their heart name as Thi and guys's every bit Van or Minh. All of my aunts and uncle got those, including my mom. We were born when my grandma decided to stop the tradition past giving her grandchildren different middle proper noun. (not a lovely one, anyway). My dad named me and my brother; therefore, we have dissimilar middle name and then the residual of the kids in the family. 8)

i mean, is it M. Maria Carceller Guzman or the other manner around?

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mamuta wrote:

Dixie wrote:...My beginning surname is my father's, my 2nd surname's my mother's...this has changed and now you can take your mother's surname as your commencement...Children take their parents' starting time surnames...

Hm, interesting. Now I see some issues. For example: y'all and your brother - is information technology possible yous take different first surname if your parents wanted to? And imagine parents with 2 sons: they could have different first surnames then their children would have totally diverse surnames :? A fleck complicated, isn't information technology? And what most family tradition?

2 of my grandma's brothers take different final names. Ane has the mother'due south, and the other ane has the father'southward even though they share the same father. She said at that time the kid could carry the last name of whoever was present. My bully-grandpa was on his business trip when his wife gave birth; hence, the different final name. They didn't really care much. I think this is amend than only take the father's last name only since I retrieve I deserve to carry my mom'southward last proper noun. Why would my dad get the privilege when he never raised me? :roll:

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LennyeTran wrote: i mean, is it M. Maria Carceller Guzman or the other way around?

It is Maria Mercè Carceller Guzman. Maria Mercè would be my full proper noun. Nobody calls me that anyway. Well, except for some teachers I had in loftier school :evil:

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Dixie wrote:... I don't think it's allowed for the children to have the surnames in different club. That would be a mess!

but you are not sure, aren't y'all? That's the point :roll:

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mamuta wrote: but y'all are non certain, aren't you? That'south the signal :roll:

I'k not sure because information technology never occurred to me, therefore I have never bothered to check. However I'm quite certain it's not possible. What a mess! :D

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It is non important whether the kid takes the surname of the begetter'due south or the mother'due south.........proper name is but a meaningless mark. no matter what your name is, you are yous.......

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Thx LennyeTran for your fascinating family story :)

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Dixie wrote:

LennyeTran wrote: i hateful, is information technology M. Maria Carceller Guzman or the other way effectually?

It is Maria Mercè Carceller Guzman. Maria Mercè would be my full proper noun. Nobody calls me that anyway. Well, except for some teachers I had in loftier schoolhouse :evil:

So middle proper name, start name, and so last proper name. Interesting! If you were in united states, your first proper noun would exist Maria, center proper name is Merce and Carceller, and final name is Guzman. Otherwise, those concluding names have to be joined..

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hullo... good morning....
well.....using surname is bot very popular in my state..... just for certain people similar chinese and Indians...simply.... no problem really

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pocahontex wrote:...it will brand a long name. Sometimes you lot'll face up a difficulty to write your proper noun onto a test paper because there is not plenty room to write such a long name.

I oasis't thought about information technology merely you're absolutely right!

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Nice topic.
I agree, that chlidren should have their surename.
for example, in indonesia there are many region in my country and the unlike civilization too. I don't have midle name but, i accept the surename that signed i'm from karonese. 1 of the area in North Sumatera that surrounding of the mount, sinabung, sibayak and bukit barisan that'due south Tanah Karo (Karo Land) In my culture, everyody should take surename that borrow from her/his father. And the surename is still divides in subsurnames. So, if we introduce myself to the other people, in karonese called, ertutur . That can show how very strength the relation of family we have.
So, using the surename is one way that we can keep our culture in my bornplace.
Thank you for all. (in karonese = Bujur)
All-time Regards,

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pocahontex wrote:...it will make a long name. Sometimes you'll face a difficulty to write your proper noun onto a test paper because at that place is not enough room to write such a long name.

mamuta wrote:I haven't thought about information technology but you're absolutely correct!

That'due south not a big deal my friend. Just write your curt proper name instead of the full ane. Have a look at this :
Hi, my name is pocahontex blablabla blablabla blablabla...

Hallo, my name is mamuta blablabla blablabla blablabla...

Cool huh !!!
Sorry only kidding my friends. :wink:

My beloved friends, to me, it's not a big deal whether you take your begetter's name or your mom's name or even both.

But to me, the all-time 1 is when you take none of them. Just your name without anything backside or in the front end.

Nowadays, lots of people are using their family proper noun to get advantage of the situation. For instance, if his/her father/mother is a public effigy or popular artist, they use that name for their involvement. Some people are hiding backside their big family name. To me, it's not a proper strategy to use family name to get something. :cry:

I wish we didn't have any family name or surneme so that everybody would be equal in whatever sectors.

Sometimes I'm confused when calling some people who take their parent's proper noun . This is i example.

A yard father has two sons.
Suppose the first one is Marco Ginting and the second ane is Marlon Ginting. "Ginting" is the family name.
Both sons are chosen "Ginting".
When they are in a family gathering, then we call "Ginting". You already know the result right!
The 3 men would look at you because their names are "Ginting". Can yous imagine if in that location are ten "Gintings" there. What would happen? What a confusing thing huh !!! What a mess!!! :P :lol:

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I, myself employ both my parents' surname. i even employ it in my resume. I don't recollect it matters whether which surnames you lot apply.

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I call back information technology is not important for the children to accept their parents' surnames or their fathers' surnames. Because parents are still parents no matter what happens, and the chilren will bring their parents' claret in their body, right?

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You lot got information technology dear Stinks.

Have neither of them.

Don't use any surnames.

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in our country we ordinarily use our father'south surname, 'cause we belong to this family unit now, but for me, it doesn't matter 'cause I have my father'south and my female parent's surname.

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nightwish wrote:in our country nosotros usually employ our father's surname, 'cause we vest to this family now, but for me, it doesn't affair 'cause I have my father's and my female parent's surname.

Wow, you've got both.

Then, what's your full name?

I bet, it must be long or at least iii words.

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ha-ha....actually information technology'due south not thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat long.....
I'thousand a lucky daughter, 'cause my father and my mother surname's is the same because of that I said that I employ both of them :D....

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nightwish wrote:ha-ha....actually it's not thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat long.....
I'm a lucky girl, 'cause my father and my mother surname's is the aforementioned considering of that I said that I utilize both of them :D....

Good excuse to cover your existent name.

Psychologically speaking, you are not an open person.

Anyway, I withal appreciate your closeness.

We need it sometimes.

But not e'er, peculiarly to uncle Bambang.

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Skilful alibi to cover your real name.

I'm not making whatever excuses hither dear,
my mother is my father's cousin. :D

Psychologically speaking, you are not an open up person

you lot don't even know me to analyze my personality :wink: .

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nightwish wrote:

Expert excuse to embrace your real name.

I'm not making any excuses here dear,
my mother is my father's cousin. :D

Oh I see. Married to a cousin.

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I don`t agree with this,information technology`southward very absurd to have two surnames.

If yous don`t like me recall information technology's mind over matter..I don't mind and you don't thing..

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I call back information technology depend on your country. it is not neccesary, your childrent can take only one begetter'south surname or female parent's surname. some case surname of mother and father is the aforementioned.

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I call back children should have both parents' surnames. The guild of them should be a selection too.
From my point of view, having both surnames is a reflection of two different family inheritances and of a complete equality between them.
Names are important, they go with the states throughout our life remembering who we are and where we come from and, on the practical sense, it helps to avert mistakes.

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In my opinion, children should choose their own surnames in a logical age (13-14 years). Imagine a father who hits his son and then he dissapear from his life. Perchance the child simply wants to have his mother´s surname (the reason is obvious). Or,for example, imagine your father´south surname is Hitler or Stalin and you live in Deutchland or Russia. It could be a problem if you lot have others political ideas.
Anyway, in Spain nosotros take both parents´ surname and it isn´t a problem. It woul be a skillful idea can change it.

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NURIA: In my opinion,it's meliorate children take both parents' usernames because the username is a part of us,something that identify us and with two surnames it'southward like shooting fish in a barrel to recognize someone I think

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In my opinion, children should take both parents' surnames because you are part of your father and of your mother likewise.
Why is it in some countries there is only father's surname?
As I see, having merely your father's name or when you are married, your husband's name is a very sexist measure out. We are in the 21st century and the equality is an upstanding value merely in this case, it isn't applied.
I live in Spain and all the children have both surnames and as well women continue their own surnames when they go married. Other countries ought to learn this intelligent measure to making more obvious the sex equality.

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I agree with Andrew'south because you can accept dissimilar political stance with your parents and a name can mark your life. You lot should be complimentary to change your name for an other that you lot like more than or sounds ameliorate.

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From my bespeak of view your mother´southward surname is as important as your father´due south so I tin´t understand why ,for example in the Great britain or France, they only accept the father´s one.Your proper name is your most important identification mark and information technology should evidence the inheritance of the 2 families where you come from.

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In Kingdom of spain we take the surnames of both the parents but I know that in other countries people simply take the surname of the father and when a woman marries she takes the surname of her husband. I don´t retrieve on it similar a sexist measure, I think that it´s only a different tradition and an easier way of doing authoritative paperwork.

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noeliam wrote:I live in Spain, and here nosotros take 2 surnames.Normally the first one belongs to our father and the 2d one comes from our mother. For me, both of these are an of import part of our identity and in some cases they can mark our destination. The surnames are an of import way of showing the family´s story, only it is only my point of view because I was born in a country where every one of us have two surnames.On the other paw I would like to say that to me to have 2 surnames isn´t so important every bit some of the other users is considering to accept ane or two surnames isn´t an own conclusion and it depends of the country´s culture

noeliam: For me too information technology isn´t a trouble to take one or ii surnames, in our state nosotros have 2 surnames but for me information technology wouldn´t be a problem to have only i

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martasofia wrote:I think children should take both parents' surnames. The order of them should be a pick as well.
From my point of view, having both surnames is a reflection of two different family inheritances and of a consummate equality betwixt them.
Names are important, they get with usa throughout our life remembering who nosotros are and where we come from and, on the practical sense, it helps to avoid mistakes.

I retrieve information technology shouldn´t be an pick, the social club of your name has to practise with tradition ,we tin´t alter it that easy.

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well its a tradition, its not then piece of cake to cahge , just nosotros are evolutioning, irresolute our traditions every mean solar day, so... why not?
i remember having this option means equality and progress, and , if parents dont want to alter the order of the surnames , they dont accept to practise information technology.
however, as i said, i call up nosotros demand 2 surnames, crusade you are better identified in the society

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ligros wrote:In Kingdom of spain we take the surnames of both the parents merely I know that in other countries people merely take the surname of the father and when a woman marries she takes the surname of her husband. I don´t think on information technology similar a sexist measure out, I retrieve that it´south merely a different tradition and an easier way of doing administrative paperwork.

mr ligros, i think information technology is a tradition, a different tradition and, in fact, a sexist ane... on that style, mother's surname seems to be less important than father'due south.
you have to realise that this tradition is being followed in countries that about of the laws are sexist ( vote, legal punishment, etc )